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Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.25 16:06:00 - [1] Originally by: CCP Dionysus Translation pt2: yelling "the sky is falling" without even seeing the changes is not very helpful. Some of the comments in here have been interesting and useful, others not so much. thats what "grain of salt" is all about. If you come back with a thought through and intelligent commentary on these proposals, then we can understand what and why you are making them. 1 line flippant comments are not very helpful. No it's not that at all, it's that the player base obviously has foresight which CCP employees are currently lacking. You think nerfing webifiers is a good thing? Yeah THE best counter to nanos which also are NEEDED by other ships to track their target. Then make it so you can have your MWD turned off by someone else without capping them out first? Yeah that will be fun, 1 Inty completly messes you up, since you can't track it back, since your web does nothing. You might also notice that the main people who are for this pathetic excuse for a development of the game are also the ones in unknown corps, who rejected the VARIETY of counters that exist already for disabling nano ships. Myself, personally, I fly blaster ships, before that I flew missile ships, I know how it is to fight against nanos. It's pretty easier to either a) kill the nano or b) make it run away. Either way you don't die. As a player who doesn't regularly fly nano I don't see any reason to nerf it in it's current state, the clever players counter it, the ******ed players sit and whine because they can't figure out how to counter it. Don't give into to the noobs, instead teach them to not be noobs, you can tell them how, maybe they will listen to you. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.25 16:17:00 - [2] Edited by: Dez Affinity on 25/07/2008 16:23:36 Originally by: "DevBlog" Then there is also the size/price factor; why would I spend ISK on a sleek, fragile interceptor (thatÆs lithe and quick, supposedly), when I can just spend the money on a more durable heavy assault cruiser and reach even greater speeds? This is blatant lies, a standard t2 Inty(without polys) will reach the speeds of a Vaga(with polys) and a faction mwd quite easily, for 1/20th of the price. Since EVERYBODY uses high grade snakes, a proper faction fit crow with snakes will go 19km/s and a proper faction fit vaga with snakes will go 12km/s. Now these speeds are really high, but they also costs billions. Billions of isk that is easily removed by 1 guy in a rapier and a damage ship. ] Originally by: CCP Dionysus Vagabond: High: nothing Med: 10mn microwarpdrive Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2 Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2 Implants. full snake set. No special named modules etc. lol, Overdrives stack with Aux. Even with snakes that thing is only going 8km/s, easily matched by a t2 inty with gisti b type mwd or overloaded mwd. Also t2 auxilliary? wat. You sir are drunk. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.25 16:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Euriti I DEMAND SHIELD TANKS TO BE BALANCED AROUND SHIPS WITH A BONUS TO BOOSTING + HG CRYSTALS AND T2 RIGS! This is ******ed I can tank 10k dps in a Golem with an officer fit and crystals. Otherwise it's about 5k dps, more than a carrier. Nerf tbh. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:23:00 - [4] Originally by: Matrix Skye That's because you haven't yet seen the benefits of fitting other than nanos. And that's ok because nanos were a little over-powered and are being brought in line with armor and shield tanks. Shield and armor now becomes a better option. See? And why do you think Shield and Armour tanks should be superior to Speed tanks? Right now, you are just angry that you can't blob all your problems away against nanos like you can with Armour/Shield tanks. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Dez Affinity Originally by: Matrix Skye That's because you haven't yet seen the benefits of fitting other than nanos. And that's ok because nanos were a little over-powered and are being brought in line with armor and shield tanks. Shield and armor now becomes a better option. See? And why do you think Shield and Armour tanks should be superior to Speed tanks? Right now, you are just angry that you can't blob all your problems away against nanos like you can with Armour/Shield tanks. but im not angry any more . i think its time we just moved on and tried to leave things as is (after the august patch) and try and work on bettering the games ourselves as players. You are a good troll. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:33:00 - [6] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg That's the hard part you dipshit. Ofc its easy to kill someting with 60% of its structure gone to modules. Its actualyl catching the things with nos and webs that's the problem. No, it really isn't, get a Rapier, web it and scram it. Then let the damage hit it. It's over. Originally by: Barasu To all those leaving please contract me your stuff. To the nano*** s who are whining grow up and fly a real ship. To those blobbing * YOU and to OSHIT you guys suck if you can't go over 15km/s and that vaga that did 20k/s is messed up. Continue your whines now I will send cheese as requested you *s. Please tell me why tanked ships are real ships and nano ships aren't? Also a Vaga going 20km/s is only going to go 150m/s when it's double webbed. Not to mention it costs about 6/7 billion + a friend in a claymore. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Barasu Originally by: Korinn Originally by: Barasu To all those leaving please contract me your stuff. To the nano*** s who are whining grow up and fly a real ship. To those blobbing * YOU and to OSHIT you guys suck if you can't go over 15km/s and that vaga that did 20k/s is messed up. Continue your whines now I will send cheese as requested you *s. Thats cool I never travel at under 25km/sec anyway no shit and you don't fly ships that can be killed. This is basically 2 mwds all over again Check their killboard, they have a losses page. On that losses page there are ships, these ships are the ones that are UNKILLABLE SUPER MACHINES HAX EXPLOIT ships, yet somehow they died. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Susitna I keep seeing this reposted and reposted. I could not disagree more with this statement. To me it reads - newbs should not be able to play this game with those that have T-2 ships and played long enough to fit for speed. It doesnt take long to get into a rapier or an inty, you dont even need t2 guns. Few months Originally by: Clone 231D Thanks for proving me right. I mean I must be if the very best you can say in return is to look up an alt's age right... right? The point is you are a nobody, no one knows who you are, has seen you PvP, so why should we believe you when you say you know what you are talkign about, why should we trust your decision on the progress of this game, because quite frankly you are wrong and have nothing to back it up. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 17:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Clone 231D so, if joe schmoe says 2+2=4 who gives a crap because he is a nobody right? You fall into the same catagory as your buddy, you cannot dispute the arguement, so you attack the person. It doesn't amtter who my main is, I could be a famous pirate for all you know. Doesn't change the words I have written. If you were anyone of any fame or worth in this community, you would post with your main and when you say something people would listen, yet you choose to post on an alt. I don't need to dispute any arguement because you don't have one. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.26 18:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg To the nano people: Is there a point to bringing frigates, BC's, or BS's out with your nanogang? Why and why not? Would you ever bring one out for a small roaming gang? T1 frigates? No, no damage, not much speed, no tank, waste of a player. Inties? Sure always need a fast locker Elec Frigs? Again sure. BCs? Well being the slow guy is going to get you killed by the big 50 man blob when your 10 man gang has to leave but if you are in a faster ship like a hurricane or if you play smart as a BC then yeah you can bring one. BSs? Definitly not on a nano gang, don't bring ships that don't work well together, BSs support good with other BSs but without a load of other BS, the 1 BS is useless, it's just going to slow the gangs movement and get a titan dropped on you. I wish I was joking but people will cyno a titan for 1 bs. Originally by: Matrix Skye I was thinking more along the lines of CCP actually fixing the imbalances such as nanos and letting the tards from Pandemic and Tri die off, since obviously they cannot live without hugging nanos . Just quit and move on already. I have enough tears from you alone to power my satisfaction that you suck at Eve. Bye bye. Go back under your bridge. _______________

Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:12:00 - [11] Matrix doesn't really believe these changes are a good idea, he just gets a hard on trolling you. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.29 16:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Haakelen Edited by: Haakelen on 29/07/2008 16:29:26 Originally by: Demus DaVet As for the 10km Vagas and Sacs, you do understand that they cost somewhere around 4bil right ? Don't you think they should have a little edge over you ? Of course not, ISK should never be a factor in game balance vvv good thing we don't have things like motherships and titans eh Originally by: Call'Da Poleece Edited by: Call''Da Poleece on 29/07/2008 16:27:40 Originally by: Demus DaVet As for the 10km Vagas and Sacs, you do understand that they cost somewhere around 4bil right ? Don't you think they should have a little edge over you ? Of course not. Spending in game currency on a few specific items should not make anyone for all intents and purposes invulnerable. If someone spends literally days of time trying to improve their ship, they should be allowed some of an edge over those who don't. When it comes down to it a 4 billion isk ship dies just as quick as a 200m isk ship when it's webbed by a Rapier. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Pushtan oh god, 4chan tit on board...not suprising seeing as youre tri...oh wait, was that a personal attack? it was indeed, now Shut. The Hell. Up with the personal/killboard stats and prepare to realise: NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK/SAY/DO YOU WONT SURVIVE THIS UNLESS YOU ADAPT LITTLE MAN. K, now, once again, back the ****ing subject at hand...how hard is it... End of the little 'war' you have on me with words. dipshit I've already adapted to nanos, that's why I can kill them and you can't. You refuse to use the ways of killing nanos that already exists and DEMAND that CCP adapt the game for you instead of you actually learning how to play the game. _______________
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Princess Jodi I fully support this change. Ships should not be allowed to fly so fast that no weapon can hit them. Webs dont need tracking, I don't understand what you mean. _______________

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